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Illyanna
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Posts: 86
(11/16/02 3:00 am)
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Siege Report 1.55a New Ammo
The new ammo:
Test conducted by dueling against a 50th chainwearer (all damage is before resists).
Grape shot: 75 average
Radius seemed to be 450+, possibly as high as 500.
Ball of Ice: 300 average, standard radius
Bullet: 400 average, didn't check radius.
Standard Catapult Stone: 300 average
Damage Bug:
Fouund a bug where damage did not occur at all some times. The effect would go off but no damage prints, no damage done, and no resist message for either target or operator.
Realm Points and Siege:
Confirmed that siege weapons are giving RPs. Killed a volunteer enemy for standard RP plus the new XP and included a claimed keep bonus. XP was standard even con yellow with no camp or group bonus.
And in the strange but true department:
[21:51:53] The trebuchet is turning to your target.
[21:51:58] Your trebuchet is now aimed and ready to fire!
[21:51:59] You fire the trebuchet!
[21:52:01] You hit Zarbix for 214 (-75) damage!
[21:52:02] You prepare the trebuchet for firing. (30.0s until armed)
[21:52:08] @@You say, "That was ice"
[21:52:26] @@You say, "This is stone"
[21:52:32] The trebuchet can't be loaded yet!
[21:52:32] Your trebuchet is now armed!
[21:52:35] You begin loading catapult stone into the trebuchet.
[21:52:4![0]](/web/20040120074622im_/http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/alien.gif) Your trebuchet is now loaded and ready to fire!
[21:52:41] You fire the trebuchet!
[21:52:43] You prepare the trebuchet for firing. (30.0s until armed)
[21:52:43] You hit Zarbix for 280 (-12) damage!
[21:52:55] You target [Zarbix]
[21:52:55] You examine Zarbix. He is a member of an enemy realm!
[21:53:06] @@You say, "This is bullet"
[21:53:13] Your trebuchet is now armed!
[21:53:13] You begin loading bullet into the trebuchet.
[21:53:18] Your trebuchet is now loaded and ready to fire!
[21:53:2 You fire the trebuchet!
[21:53:21] You hit Zarbix for 1647 (-140) damage!
[21:53:21] You get 943 realm points!
[21:53:21] You get 73 bounty points!
[21:53:21] You get 41,943,040 experience points!
[21:53:21] You earn 4,194,304 outpost bonus experience!
This is a sitting naked 50th Theurgist. With his armor on and standing he was healing faster than I could damage him.
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Illyanna
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Posts: 87
(11/16/02 1:21 pm)
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Ammo
The ammo is available at the portal ticket vendors but is not available at the supply keeps.
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ImNvts
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Posts: 111
(11/18/02 9:21 am)
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Re: Ammo
Quote:
[21:53:21] You hit Zarbix for 1647 (-140) damage!
O_o !
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Illyanna
Neophyte
Posts: 91
(11/20/02 1:31 am)
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1.55d Additions
Ballista bolts changed to weigh 1 from 3
Catapult stones changed to weigh 2.5 from 5.
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BatlKat 
Registered User
Posts: 8
(12/24/02 8:28 am)
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Re: 1.55d Additions
I've dueled with catapults a couple of times, and these things still IMO don't do enough damage. 2 50 Pallies couldn't kill each other (no healing allowed) and we pretty much were just standing there waiting to be hit. When one robie in the gatehouse can kill whole groups in 4 seconds, dropping a rock on em needs to be a viable option.
edit: On the other hand I absolutely squooshed a grey guildie with one stone. Maybe cats are viable in the bg?
Edited by: BatlKat at: 12/24/02 8:29:43 am
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Illyanna
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Posts: 102
(12/24/02 9:23 am)
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Re: 1.55d Additions
Although I'm still pushing for an increase to siege damage. Having the BGs is making that tougher since the top end siege is available on the BG3 siege masters.
An increase in the rate of fire is more likely.
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Toast In The Machine
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Posts: 559
(2/18/03 5:38 pm)
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Re: Siege Report 1.55a New Ammo
"[21:53:21] You hit Zarbix for 1647 (-140) damage!"
:O
A guildmate of mine recently took over 500 damage from a treb. He was pretty ticked off, as he is a gtae caster, and can do nowhere near 500. He wears either 99 or 100 quality AF51 in all locations, and was self-buffed with AF and absorb at the time.
Can anyone tell me what the heck hit him? I'd love to do 500 damage every 15 seconds, but I'd like to see him not respec out of runecarving.
Ygrane, Armorcrafter of Tristan
Palla, Spellcrafter of Guinevere
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Illyanna
Assistant
Posts: 141
(2/19/03 11:10 am)
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Volley hits harder
Damage from Volley will be higher but less consistent.
Condition also impacts AF significantly. Not everyone keeps their armor repaired at all times.
GTAE spells wasn't intended to do more damage over time than siege. It's still about the same in overall DPS as GTAE still casts 2.5x faster than a trebuchet can fire (1/25 sec treb, 1/9 sec GTAE spells). Practical rate of fire on the treb is 1/30 sec while casters get about 1/12 seconds.
Being mobile is also an advantage.
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Tejj
Helper
Posts: 15
(2/19/03 12:21 pm)
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500 catapult stone damage?
Having flung stones at most every other class, I normally only get that kind of treb damage with ice on <38 levels and stones on pets. Even bullet damage is hard to get above 450 unless folks are sitting down.
I hope your Runnie friend stays RC for the GT. If it helps any, my typical treb shots against SC resisted level 50s is about 178 damage. Is that about your typical damage Ygrane?
Illyanna, is there any hint at what seige changes looked positive in testing to maybe go live in 1.60x?
Alibin
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Toast In The Machine
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Posts: 562
(2/19/03 6:41 pm)
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Re: 500 catapult stone damage?
"GTAE spells wasn't intended to do more damage over time than siege. It's still about the same in overall DPS as GTAE still casts 2.5x faster than a trebuchet can fire (1/25 sec treb, 1/9 sec GTAE spells)."
I was under the impresssion that GTAE fired every 9 seconds (6 seconds plus casting time), and siege will fire every 16 seconds (15 seconds plus nearly instantaneous fire)
We tested out a siege weapon on a guild shadowblade in a duel today, it was doing roughly 300, whether he was standing or sitting. I still need to confirm whether it was a trebuchet.
Ygrane, Armorcrafter of Tristan
Palla, Spellcrafter of Guinevere
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Illyanna
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Posts: 142
(2/20/03 12:56 am)
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Correction
I recalled the incorrect Arm timer of the catapults. It's 15 sec Arm plus the 5 sec load timer (down from 30 sec arm). Between lag and messing with ammo, it still ends up around 25-30 sec per shot but could be as fast as 20 sec.
The general theory still applies.
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Illyanna
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Posts: 143
(2/20/03 1:09 am)
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Recent Treb log - Pellinor
Only got 3 shots off before the keep fell to 56 Albs and a single ram per gate. Total siege lasted maybe 7 minutes.
[23:05:3 You hit Lgd for 271 (-77) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Daben for 243 (-104) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Corttezz for 275 (-45) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Kemokawn for 138 (-150) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Oweoc for 155 (-104) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Manderly for 446 (-429) damage!
>>>Manderly Icebane
>>>Member of Retribution
>>>50th level Avalonian Wizard
[23:05:3 You hit Isembold for 150 (-164) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Headrush for 208 (-112) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Kzar for 97 (-166) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Priest for 524 (-5 damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Greenlei for 267 (-75) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit Mrheal for 100 (-171) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit the abomination for 501 (-110) damage!
[23:05:3 You hit the abomination for 325 (-326) damage!
[23:05:31] You hit the amber simulacrum for 523 damage!
[23:05:31] You hit the sapphire simulacrum for 658 damage!
[23:06:05] You fire the trebuchet!
[23:06:07] You hit Kiah for 180 (-57) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Corttezz for 274 (-45) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Kemokawn for 129 (-140) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Isembold for 131 (-143) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Headrush for 152 (-82) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Kzar for 123 (-211) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Priest for 470 (-52) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Greenlei for 218 (-62) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Ayumii for 153 (-131) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit Mrheal for 106 (-181) damage!
[23:06:07] You hit the abomination for 535 (-11 damage!
[23:06:07] You hit the sapphire simulacrum for 772 damage!
[23:06:07] You hit the abomination for 302 (-302) damage!
[23:06:47] You fire the trebuchet!
[23:06:48] You hit Kaotic for 184 (-79) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Daben for 199 (-86) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Kiah for 184 (-5 damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Corttezz for 310 (-51) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Kemokawn for 142 (-155) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Oweoc for 142 (-95) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Isembold for 122 (-133) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Kzar for 93 (-160) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Draco for 206 (-39) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Greenlei for 247 (-70) damage!
[23:06:48] You hit Mrheal for 124 (-212) damage!
[23:06:49] You hit the amber simulacrum for 503 damage!
[23:06:49] You hit the abomination for 282 (-282) damage!
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