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Degoft
Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2002 2:27 am Posts: 54
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:01 pm |
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There are alot of them, but imo the worst RA is Group Purge. Sheesh, a healer does his/her job perfectly and mezzes the whole group.... boom GP and you get owned. Screw that RA. Formerly Degoft, now Lurker<i></i>
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whorde
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 12:10 pm Posts: 11268
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:58 pm |
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if by worst you mean most powerful, speed of sound is the most powerful RA. if by worst you mean shittiest, there are so many i couldn't hope to list them all off the top of my head. <i></i>
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Lambda BattleHymn
Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 8:00 pm Posts: 461
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:20 pm |
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sos is the most powerful RA hands down Paradoxx - 50 NS 1165 LGM Tailor Lambda - 50 Bard Galuss - 47 BM Cennia - 50 Cleric, Iseult Paradoxx - 50 Savage, Bedevere<i></i>
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omnimonespiritus
Joined: Tue Feb 04, 2003 4:22 pm Posts: 2255
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:29 pm |
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Quote:There are alot of them, but imo the worst RA is Group Purge. Sheesh, a healer does his/her job perfectly and mezzes the whole group.... boom GP and you get owned. Screw that RA.
If it weren't bugged so that (sometimes) immunity timers aren't set, and thus the effects may be put on the group immediately a second time, it would be up there.
SoS is hands down the best RA in the game; it's perhaps the only RA that I would call 'overpowered'. However, it's because of the small population that know how to use it offensively, that you'll find BoF being nerfed long before SoS. <i></i>
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Widdles Wabbit
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2002 11:40 pm Posts: 3715
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:17 pm |
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Good/Decent RA's: Bunker of Faith, Speed of Sound, Faith Healing, Volcanic Pillar, Group Purge, Brilliant Aura of Defelection, Severing the Tether (situational though), Thornweed Field, Perfect Recovery, Ichor of the Deep.
Sucky RA's: Soldier's Baricade, Juggernaut, Vanish, Void, Strike the Soul, True Sight, Corporeal Disintegration, Siege Bolt, Forestheart Ambusher, Ameliorating Melodies, Winter Moon, Wrath of the Champion, Negative Maelstrom, Razorback, Viper, Defender of the Vale, Tundra, Rune of Decimation, Ravager, Shadow Run, Fury of the Gods, Static Tempest, Doombringer.
Dunno RA's: Reflex Attack, Unquenchable Thirst of Souls, Resilience of Death, Excited Frenzy.
For the good RA's. Alb has 4, Hib has 3-4, Mid has 2. Those 4 in dunno I havn't heard anything about so not sure if they're decent or suck, some sound good on paper, but you know how that is.
-------- BOARD TROLL<i></i>
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Vladimar
Joined: Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:10 am Posts: 880
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:24 pm |
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Well Vanish I wouldnt put as a totally sucky RA. I have seen that one used very well and as a offensive RA it can win a fight in a matter of seconds. However Shadowrun ....... HAHAHA Nm
Vlad <i></i>
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bord1536
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2003 3:50 am Posts: 212
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:33 pm |
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I'm of the opinion they stealth fixed gp I havn't been able to remezz hibs with my sm since the hib love patch. And omni even shitty players use sos offensivly (btw when 3 shitty groups running together all use sos in the first 3 seconds of a fight they almost equall the effectiveness of larfo). Bordarm 50 sm (Eternal Fire) Gribam 50 shaman Grublum part time 50 warrior<i></i>
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Degoft
Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2002 2:27 am Posts: 54
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:33 pm |
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I meant that its tooooo good. It completely counters mids main offense/defense.... the healer mez Formerly Degoft, now Lurker<i></i>
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hibbie
Joined: Thu Jun 06, 2002 12:41 am Posts: 113
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:34 am |
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Vanish and Viper are far from shitty.
Vanish is a nice defensive/offensive RA. Viper can really put the hurt on someone if you stack a few dot's on someone. Viper is most likely to get purged so, like Vanish and some other RA's, it's very situational but not worthless.
ShadowRun damn. That is probably by far the worst RA. The concept is just so retarded its not even funny. The stealth speed burst should of been part of Vanish and Vanish made 14pts.
The SM RA is retarded too. Bet the same guy who came up with SR did this one too. Retarded ass dev. /slap
SoS is uber. No arguement there. <i>Edited by: hibbie at: 8/27/03 11:35 pm </i>
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Vitellius
Joined: Mon Sep 30, 2002 5:16 pm Posts: 3472 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:04 am |
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Whats even more funny is that Mastery of Stealth allows any assassin to have a passive RA working anytime version of Shadowrun. I always thought that was really funny. Granted its not worth the points. On that same line of thinking, I'd imagine some of the passive pet RA's are similarly versions of Juggernaut w/o a timer, but at least it looks cool. I thoroughly enjoy your comment regarding SoS Omnimon. Larfo would never admit it before, but SoS with a nice nuker group was crazy, where you guys could nuke and run w/o ever having to worry about being stopped by a CC spell or being caught by your "in combat" opponents runspeed. I'd also place Soldier's Barricade in the average list. It sure doesn't deserve to be beside the melee styles and skald RA on the shitlist.
Thundarr <i></i>
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Taradim
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:09 am Posts: 151
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:42 am |
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err lol widdles...AM is a very good RA and far from sucky.
Actually its how a RA should be designed in the first place. Gives you a slight edge without being overpowered.
Coru ------------------------------------------------------ Coru Cat, 50 bard Milites Mortis, Palomides Juppo, 50 Eldritch, Milites Mortis, Palomides <i></i>
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batlkat
Stormcrows GM
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2003 4:44 pm Posts: 650
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:25 am |
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Rain of X = teh suck. Especially for archers, seeing as it won't work for arrows. /boggle as to why it is even on our list. <i></i>
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Widdles Wabbit
Joined: Fri Sep 20, 2002 11:40 pm Posts: 3715
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:44 am |
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AoM does nearly nothing in 8v8 combat. By the time the 2nd tick is around if your fighting a halfway decent group they'll already have one person down.
If you're talking about zerg rvr then ya it's quite a nice RA as half the time you don't even need to heal. IMO it should be changed so that when the bard hits AoM a buff is created on each person and heals them for xxx amount per tick as a sort of smart heal like spreads.. if you don't need healing it heals for 0 and doesn't take from the pool. Duration is max 60s or something to prevent it from being a perma buff. -------- BOARD TROLL<i></i>
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bord1536
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2003 3:50 am Posts: 212
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:08 am |
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I was actually thinking about getting the extra qq ra with my sm. (although I prolly won't ever get him enough points to) was wondering if anyone has this. Bordarm 50 sm (Eternal Fire) Gribam 50 shaman Grublum part time 50 warrior<i></i>
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SuperMali
Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2003 1:34 am Posts: 87
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:14 am |
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Widdles, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Ameliorating Melodies is so fucking uber. It's not BoF or SoS uber, but then again nothing is. With AM up, I can have 1-2 people on me and stay at 100%, every few seconds...unless those 1-2 people are slow weapon using FLD types. You either weren't aware that it was beefed up, or you haven't paid attention to the effect it has...regardless, it's a very uber RA, providing upwards of probably 2000 HP over a 30 second period of time, combat or not. I wouldn't call that a slouch of an RA.
2 single instas + 2 group instas + 2 BoL's + AM = YOU CAN'T KILL ME KTHX
Chad <i></i>
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Onrec
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2003 8:46 am Posts: 336
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:52 am |
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yeah AM is a good RA.
there are so many shitty RA's out there. and mid is hurting the most in the crappy RA list. <i></i>
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Lonemattt
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2002 9:40 am Posts: 79
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:03 am |
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TS roxor's
Right? My SB's and NS's Brothers from another mother! <i></i>
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Luuk
Joined: Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:28 am Posts: 5451 Location: Highlands County, FL
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:31 am |
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JESUS CHRIST FUCK RA'S
NERF OMNI'S SIG <i></i>
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zerdaninsider
Crazy Liberal
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:00 pm Posts: 9525
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:02 pm |
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yes widdles~ soldiers barricade sucks~ =p Zerdan Unicorn Knight of Palomides (Retired for now) Raven Ardent of Bors (Semi-retired) <LARFO> Tylar: "get on all fours, and go run around in your l33t 8v8 group and go be someone elses bitch, I owe my RPs to no one but myself."<i></i>
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GB
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:37 pm Posts: 11513
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:05 pm |
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hrmm.
I'd like to point out that, at some point, Mythic stealth nerfed Ichor of the Deep~ it has a range of like 12 now. In fact, you're lucky if you hit the guy you targetted. And it's 14 points while Sos and BoF are 10, jes? and it can be resisted.
/golf glap mythic, may rabid dogs rape you and everyone you know.
-GB/Apriori Cookie Jar <i></i>
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