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{old}minstrel_yurk
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Just curious how this spec works at 50?
I recently capped BG3 with a full BA spec, and had one of the best times there with any char I've played.
What was surprising was how well I did versus stealthers. My pets and I were buffed by a shambot, and versus unbuffed assassins, it was a joke. Eventually, they would just emote at me and not attack  .
Versus buffed assassins, it seemed to mostly come down to their stun style. If they missed it, then I would usually win. If they missed their PA, then it was no contest (how it should be with all classes IMO).
I also hade only marginally decent gear, AF 31ish dropped, with no stat capping from items (except PIE).
I was thinking of switching to suppression for RvR (solo DF vs gankers mostly) at 40 or 50 (anyone have 2pp I can have? heh), but now I'm not so sure.
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RE: Level 50 BA BD vs assassins?
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Depends on the circumstances..
The soldier pets have an extremely high chance to see and pop stealthers if you put them on aggressive, I might even go on a limb and say they have truesight/see hidden.
Hunters are a rare sight on Merlin, lately my guild has been using me to find stealthers if there are some nearby, I just stick to someone, put them on aggressive and the group leader runs to where the stealthers may be, it's extremely effective.
And if my guild doesn't have a group out, I tend to solo at the hmf/amf in odin's, and I don't even bother AEing the doors every so often anymore to see if stealthers come through, I can usually always rely on my pets.
Once in awhile it doesn't work, like I will see the stealther briefly and my pets won't do anything, not sure why that happens though.
To put it in a nutshell, you have a better chance vs Assassins then other casters, not as much a Suppression Bonedancer will, but better then every other caster in the game.
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{old}minstrel_yurk
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Very encouraging news! I guess I'll stick with the BA spec.
I also noticed my pets jumping stealthers sometimes, but mostly I would react first or get PA'd.
If only Mythic would fix the subpets so they would /assist the commander at all times.
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I love the soldier when they pop stealthers I have had that happen a few times but then like 3grps come and roll me 
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I have two lvl 50 bonedancers one supp spec one ba spec. It all depends on how smart your attackers are. I know on kay server they are pretty good at taking out bonedancers. My BA spec one has taken out two NS at same time..they were dumb enough to fight my pets while i ran a safer distance away to comeback and ae dot them with crits. most of the time they will get a good hit on you and do more damage than you can compensate for with healer pets or soldier pets. Survivability in RVR at level 50 is not that great no matter which spec you choose.
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I am only 35, and I can withstand any perf from an assasin my level. Last night I got perfed and deseased / DoT'd by an inf, and I went down like a sac of bricks. He was very buffed, very SC'd, but then again , so was I. It was my first time getting deseased and I just couldn't keep up the healing with LT and pets.
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yes, people complain about supp BD's being overpowered, their lifetaps can be very deadly along with healer pets; therefore, you must use your brains. You can't just run into a fight and expect the supp BD to fall easily. Pre level 30 and double healer pets an effective method is to disable/mez the single healer pet and procede to bash the BD, for his lifetaps alone cannot compensate dmg being taken. After level 30, ae mez including the BD and then stun, nuke/melee for an easy win. Disease/enervating is also a good method to try and take out a BD. Decrease healer pet heals, and decrease BD's hp's. I myself have a lvl 42 BD and have encountered all of these situations in BG's and RvR. (i also have a 50 SB on the side) Lastly, buffs make a HUGE difference in a supp BD's survivability, a good str/con and acuity and you have an even tougher cookie to take down.
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"To put it in a nutshell, you have a better chance vs Assassins then other casters, not as much a Suppression Bonedancer will, but better then every other caster in the game."
Aside from the aggressive soldier "see hidden" ability, I see no reason that a BA BD would be better against stealthers than any other caster, and possibly worse than SMs, who have a pet that can actually block attacks for them (I believe this goes for PAs as well). Obviously they're aren't as good as Supp BDs (noted), who can actually live even when they DO get perfed/stunned.
When you succeed it is because you didn't get PAed or stunned, not because of anything your class/spec did exceptionally well against them. If a stealther missed either their perf or stun, ANY caster should be able to kill them. QC root/stun/mez, max range, nuke, dead.
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