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Date Posted: 1/29/04 7:11am Subject: Vanish RA
Is it possible to use the Vanish realm ability to immediately stealth while in combat so its possible to get a second PA chain off?

 

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McThompson  8396 posts
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Date Posted: 1/29/04 7:49am Subject: RE: Vanish RA

Yes. It is called a "Vanish PA".

With that said, it is possible but not easy. Vanish isn't really vanish at all, meaning you stealth instantly but your opponent doesn't lose his/her target on you. Nearly always you hit vanish, then are knocked out of stealth miliseconds later by your opponents next swing. This is especially true against fast swinging Nightshades/Shadowblades. If you hit vanish at teh wrong milisecond, you're buggered for another 30 minutes.

The few times I was able to pull it off in RvR were when I PA/CD'd someone, then vanish during the CD stun and re-PA'd. This happened successfully about once per week, so I respeced out of vanish.

Good luck!

 

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Date Posted: 1/29/04 8:30am Subject: RE: Vanish RA
I was wondering if this was worth getting, I could see it being useful from a "run away" and hide to fight another day stand point.

 

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Date Posted: 1/29/04 8:48am Subject: RE: Vanish RA

If an enemy caster has begun to cast a spell at you, it will hit you even after you vanish. Same with pets. The spiritmaster pet, for example, will just keep hitting you like you're not stealthed at all.

If you are a milegate camper and fight from the top (new infs tend to linger around the milegates), you can kill someone then jump over the wall and vanish mid flight. That usually lets you get away clean.

Until they true sight you.

Is it worth it? With a realm ability review coming out soon, and big changes to the Frontiers, you have two choices. Get it now and learn to love/hate it, we all get respecs at Frontiers. OR, assume the RA is *gone* after the RA review/Fronties, so don't waste the time. 10 points gets you nice passives, such as aug dex, aug qui, dodger, mastery of pain, duleist's reflexes, etc.

 

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Date Posted: 1/29/04 11:39am Subject: RE: Vanish RA
Vanish is a nice skill, but wouldnt get it until like RR5.

PA, dragonfang, get out of combat, vanish, PA chain. Do not be in combat with the other person targeted, you'll pop right out of stealth.

Vanish can be useful for getting away from people, but if it's a caster, they keep target for a few seconsd after you've disappeared. Dont count on it to save your butt.

I generally use it offensively.

 

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Date Posted: 1/30/04 8:06am Subject: RE: Vanish RA
If you time it right it can work against 2 handed users, but dont rely on it. Usually best to double perf stunned people with or restealth and run a little sooner.

Queued spells, pets and melee swings will all break it immediately, so its a fairly gimpy RA.

 

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