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Ezeran
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F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:04 PM
from Sanya Tomas on the Herald:

Some nifty things... like spell list organization for ALL casters:


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Dark Age of Camelot

1.65f Version Release Notes

September 22, 2003

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NEW THINGS AND BUG FIXES

- Quickcast will now grey out (like other spells/abilities with recast timers).

- Ability Casters (non-cloth wearing casters) will now have their spells displayed by spec line and spell level, similar to 'List Casters' (cloth wearing casters).

- Added new bindable keys for Right Handed Weapon Slot, Two Handed Weapon Slot, and Ranged Weapon slot. Pressing these keys will act the same as if you had dragged the icon to the quickbar and clicked on it.

- (Pendragon Only) Your character's /hood preference will now saving on zoning and logging.

- (Pendragon Only) We fixed a bug that was introduced in 1.65D that affected spell and archery line-of-sight checks. Trees once again should not block line-of-sight, which has been the case since the game launched.


CAMELOT CLASSIC WORLD NOTES


Quests- General

- We are excited to announce a few new types of quest rewards for players that are working to increase their tradeskills. These rewards can be gained through quests given by your tradeskill masters in the capital cities of each realm. Players must have a minimum skill level of 500 and be a minimum of level 5. For now, players will be able to do the level 500 quests repeatedly until they have received all of the different types of tradeskill rewards. In future versions we will add additional quests at higher levels. These quests will require that players achieve level 10 and have higher tradeskill levels. We hope that you will enjoy the benefits from these rewards as you continue to advance your tradeskill ranks.

Hibernia Quests

- The quest "Piaras and Lhia" has been changed from level 50 to level 49.

Realm v. Realm

- Part of the regular courtyard guard contingent of the relic keeps have been associated with keeps throughout the frontier. When a keep is under enemy control, the guard associated with that keep will no longer be available to assist in relic defense.

- (Pendragon Only) Gatekeepers for the new inner doors are now available for use at all keeps using the new door layout. These gatekeepers function the same way as other gatekeepers.

Item Notes

- (Pendragon Only) The seals available for purchase in the main cities have been renamed. Additionally, the diamond seals are now sold 1 at a time.

- (Pendragon Only) Empo will now sell the Superior Accursed Avernal Flute (Albion).

- The Druidic Oaken Recurve Bow (Hibernia) will no longer claim it needs to be repaired after every shot.



SHROUDED ISLES WORLD NOTES


Item Notes

- (Pendragon Only) The Belt of Enduring Wind (Midgard) and the Girdle of Earthen Grandeur (Midgard) will now have the correct condition, durability, and quality when handed out as a reward.

- (Pendragon Only) The Crystalline Mantid Eye will now grant empathy instead of Piety.

- (Pendragon Only) The following quest rewards have been set so they are no longer sellable to NPC merchants: Immaculate Ensanguined Chain Hauberk, Immaculate Ensanguined Chain Shirt, Immaculate Ensanguined Cloth Vest, Immaculate Ensanguined Leather Jerkin, Immaculate Ensanguined Studded Vest, Immaculate Ensanguined Studded Jerkin, Girdle of Earthen Grandeur, Belt of the Enduring Wind, Crystalline Mantid Eye, Petrified Mantid Eye, Archaic Airtein Hauberk, Archaic Carragh Hauberk, Archaic Airtein Vest, Archaic Carragh Vest, Archaic Airtein Jerkin, Archaic Carragh Robe, Archaic Airtein Robe, Jeweled Orc-Skin Bracelet, Gilded Orc-Skin Bracer, Venerable Faeldek Studded Vest, Robe of the Zephyr, Venerable Faeldek Leather Jerkin, Venerable Faeldek Battle Robe, Venerable Faeldek Chain Shirt, Venerable Faeldek Mail Hauberk, and Venerable Faeldek Breastplate.

- (Pendragon Only) The Gilded Orc-Skin Bracer has had its hit point bonus reduced slightly to bring it in line with the rewards in the other 2 realms.

- (Pendragon Only) The Jeweled Orc-Skin Bracelet has had its hit point bonus reduced slightly to bring it in line with the rewards in the other 2 realms.

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:25 PM
- Ability Casters (non-cloth wearing casters) will now have their spells displayed by spec line and spell level, similar to 'List Casters' (cloth wearing casters).

Woot. Glad this finally came out. Was getting sick of all the mixed up spells on my cleric's list.

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Phel
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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:25 PM
OK, how come nobody has replied yet?

Someone go try that tradeskills quest and tell us how it works!

and ANOTHER "this can NEVER be fixed" fix has occurred!

- Ability Casters (non-cloth wearing casters) will now have their spells displayed by spec line and spell level, similar to 'List Casters' (cloth wearing casters).

Phel Lvl 50 Eldritch Lancelot
Hirop Lvl 50 Warden Lancelot
Phelon Lvl 49 Hero Lancelot
Phelshar Lvl 44 Mentalist Lancelot
Phiro Lvl 42 Ranger Lancelot
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Kallinan
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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:29 PM
Aye, it's great to see them getting around to long requested features. Life just got better for every healer-type.

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:31 PM
Lol Phel how true. I think this was another of those fixes they were working on, but could not say anything about it until they knew it would work, hence it always got the "too hard to fix" responses.

I like the new bindable keys. That frees up spaces on my quick bar for both my minstrel and my melee classes. That is a big woot!

And Ezeran, you know Trol(you dropped an L buddy) is going to be unhappy you beat him to the post :).

-insert here- Now why don't they fix my class comments.

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Gewn
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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:35 PM
this is like meeting aliens on a party, not expected...:P

The list thing was a horrible mess... plz post a ss wanna se how it looks in reality.


Now fix color coding on ppl with dis and dot´s and I will go outside and look for those aliens...

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:39 PM
- (Pendragon Only) We fixed a bug that was introduced in 1.65D that affected spell and archery line-of-sight checks. Trees once again should not block line-of-sight, which has been the case since the game launched.

Right...because that would make too much sense. If I was to go out into a forest and place a target behind a tree, shoot at the target...the arrow would hit the tree. This whole thing doesn't make sense to me.

Phel
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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:42 PM
Someone should run a weblist of all the impossible things Mythic swore we could never have, it was just impossible/would require the entire game to be recoded from scratch/blah blah blah. The list is getting up there...

A couple recent ones:
Non-caster spellbook organization
/hood

Anyone else remember more?

On a side note, I'm confused:

- Part of the regular courtyard guard contingent of the relic keeps have been associated with keeps throughout the frontier. When a keep is under enemy control, the guard associated with that keep will no longer be available to assist in relic defense.

Isn't that how it's always worked? Isn't that why you take keeps on a relic raid, so you face less guards at the relic keep?

Phel Lvl 50 Eldritch Lancelot
Hirop Lvl 50 Warden Lancelot
Phelon Lvl 49 Hero Lancelot
Phelshar Lvl 44 Mentalist Lancelot
Phiro Lvl 42 Ranger Lancelot
Vamphiro Lvl 39 Vampiir Lancelot

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:48 PM
PD is not up for testing the new craft quest for one.

Next, the LoS issue is not what you think. Trees are still considered to be in the LoS of an archer. This was worded very badly.

Before, every blade of grass, leaf, pebble, twig, etc....woudl affect the LoS. They need to reword this again, lol. You still CANNOT shoot from behind a tree;)

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:55 PM
I just want to know which retard at Mythic thought it was fun to torture non-cloth wearing casters ...?

Phel
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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 4:57 PM
The original idea was that their education was completely different, etc. etc. Non-cloth casters had sorta a different "magic" than cloth casters - totally different spells too.

The magic systems (in the code) were different as well - all on purpose. That purpose has long been lost IMO, Mythic's original idea never came to fruition in the public's eye.

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Hirop Lvl 50 Warden Lancelot
Phelon Lvl 49 Hero Lancelot
Phelshar Lvl 44 Mentalist Lancelot
Phiro Lvl 42 Ranger Lancelot
Vamphiro Lvl 39 Vampiir Lancelot

JRave
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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 5:07 PM
"- Part of the regular courtyard guard contingent of the relic keeps have been associated with keeps throughout the frontier. When a keep is under enemy control, the guard associated with that keep will no longer be available to assist in relic defense.

Isn't that how it's always worked? Isn't that why you take keeps on a relic raid, so you face less guards at the relic keep? "

I think they mean those blue/yellow con guards that don't belong to any keep at all. With recent Treb relic raids the only guards that get killed are those yellow/blue ones. I'm guessing they are trying to make it so people are warned about the treb attacks now.

Malfeus
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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 5:11 PM
This maybe off topic but, since Sanya Posted I was wondering is there any updates on the Beta CDs??? I know you said last week there was a publishing/shipping problem but you also said you would keep up us upto date and I haven't seen anything. It has been a week (I think or am I desiring the Beta CD that badly?) since you said anything, any news would be good news. (Err or just better than not knowing)

EDIT: BAH! I just remember something I wanted to ask that is somewhat closer to the topic at hand, has anyone recently tried getting to pendragon and testing some of the new features then return to the regular servers and noticing Packet/Latency Issues followed by Client not responding? Any help here would be great. TIA. (Thanks in Advance)

Malfeus

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 5:13 PM
I think most will get those cds a week before the expansion even hits the stores, lol. Sorry to any who are still waiting:(

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 5:23 PM
You all know the expansion will get pushed back just like SI did. So I wouldnt worry about getting the CDs a week before the expansion.

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 5:31 PM
"- Ability Casters (non-cloth wearing casters) will now have their spells displayed by spec line and spell level, similar to 'List Casters' (cloth wearing casters)."

Excellent. This is a change that has long been needed and requested. Another "impossible" fix on the books, eh mythic? :P

I don't think /hood was ever called impossible, just not a big priority. But I remember when having more than 4 characters per realm was impossible :P



However, Mythic, if you're reading, if you haven't "stealth fixed" it from 1.65d yet, there's still an apparent "bug" with the new focus shield that gives aggro to the CASTER instead of the pet when the mob hits the shielded pet. It's all there in my pendragon /appeal.

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 5:58 PM
I thought this news was gonna be "F for "F*ck! Why did I cancel?!"

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 6:33 PM
- Ability Casters (non-cloth wearing casters) will now have their spells displayed by spec line and spell level, similar to 'List Casters' (cloth wearing casters).

ohhh thank you thank /breaks down and cries

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Uriel
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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 6:58 PM
Interesting side effect of something in this patch: None of my styles actually do what they're supposed to anymore. When I hit a style hotkey, it either does another style or casts a spell.

Not sure whether this is a non-list caster issue, effects everyone with styles, or even is Reaver-specific... though since I wasn't hearing cries of anger in /as, I'm assuming it's not exactly widespread.

Gotta wonder how something like that slipped through internal testing, though...

Sanya has explained what "impossible" means before, people. There's probably not much of anything that is actually impossible for them to do, with enough time and enough people on it... "impossible" means it's not very likely to happen, and that there's a technical reason for it, rather than it simply being a low priority.

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 7:05 PM
About freaking time.

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 7:08 PM
another impossible was in a Q n A for SI they asked if it was possible to add more character slots in the expansion (for you new guys theres used to be 4 :P) they said it was impossible.


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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 7:28 PM
Craft quest:

Your choice of 3 items.
One raises the quality of an item made.
One increases the speed of combine.
One increases the skillup rate.
The quest appears to be repeatable since the master states that the items will wear out after some time

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 8:18 PM
Now that ROCKS!

Better then new Healers spell list and /hood!

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 8:36 PM
"One raises the quality of an item made.
One increases the speed of combine.
One increases the skillup rate."

Some crafters might read this as:

One makes high qual (specifically MP) items worth less since they're easier to make, thus making it harder for you to earn back the cash you spent skilling up before this patch.
One makes the act of crafting faster, hence both skilling and making orders will be easier than when you capped your trade.
One even helps skilling up specifically. Why did you even bother?

Maybe it's just me being cynical due to throwning excessive amounts of gold at 1050+ alchy atm (sooo close to ablatives). Then again, I know there are people with several LGMs in different crafts.. At least they'll still have use for the qual one and the speed of combine one heh.

Anyways, rest looks pretty dandy =)

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RE: F is for Spell List Fun 09/23/03 9:01 PM
Wow... I mean like... WOW. Those craft items, CRAZY.

Next thing you know we'll be getting Magic Find % charms and SOJs.

This is turning out to be an "OMG" patch. I'm still waiting to see if certain things turn up in the patch, but even if my hopes aren't fulfilled, it'll still be beneficial.

I'm gonna hate having to redo all my bard's quickbars AGAIN, though. Seems everytime there's any change to any non-cloth caster spell line, all my bars go OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG MIX!

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