I took a little time this evening to make a series of test-shots, to determine just how much damage I do effective in RVR. So I dragged my bot into the frontier and shot her full of arrows - the poor thing.


*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Mar 30 23:17:22 2007

Buffie is level 50, has 668AF and is wearing chainmail (27% absorb)

Huntress is level 50, 400 DEX, 70 Composite Bow, using Champion Bow, 10% Range, 10% Speed, 9% damage.

[23:18:19] You switch to rapid fire mode.
[23:18:22] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:23] You are ready to fire!
[23:18:23] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:24] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:24] Buffie blocks your attack!
[23:18:25] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:25] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:18:25] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:26] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 179 (-100) damage!
[23:18:27] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:27] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:27] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 154 (-87) damage!
[23:18:27] You critical hit for an additional 75 damage!
[23:18:28] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:28] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:18:29] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:29] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 176 (-99) damage!
[23:18:30] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:30] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:18:30] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:30] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 134 (-76) damage!
[23:18:31] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:32] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:32] Buffie blocks your attack!
[23:18:33] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:33] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:18:33] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:34] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 154 (-87) damage!
[23:18:35] You are ready to fire!
[23:18:35] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:35] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:18:35] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:36] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 199 (-112) damage!
[23:18:36] You critical hit for an additional 37 damage!
[23:18:36] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:36] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:18:36] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:37] Buffie blocks your attack!
[23:18:37] @@[Alliance] Stinkbox-Prydwen: "mitey :D"
[23:18:38] You are ready to fire!
[23:18:38] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:39] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:39] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 256 (-144) damage!
[23:18:40] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:40] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:18:40] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:41] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 158 (-89) damage!
[23:18:42] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:18:42] You will now automatically release your shot and reload.
[23:18:42] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:18:42] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 140 (-79) damage!
[23:18:42] You hit Buffie for 81 damage!
[23:18:42] Your duel ends!
[23:18:42] You are no longer strengthened by the earth.
[23:18:42] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[23:18:42] Your Dexterity has decreased.
[23:18:42] Your Quickness has decreased.
[23:18:42] You just killed Buffie!

Oops. Anyway, that was a bunch of rapidfire shots. Crush attack against 31% resist.

2 blocks, 9 hits, no misses.

Same target but now I'm shooting her in the back so there won't be any blocks.

[23:19:55] You attempt to use keen footed flight broadhead arrows.
[23:19:55] You will no longer draw from a quiver slot.
[23:19:56] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:19:58] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:20:01] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 540 (-303) damage!
[23:20:01] You hit Buffie for 74 damage!

Slash damage on chain meet with +10% resistbonus, so she has 36% effective resist.
The 74 is the bow proccing.

[23:22:33] You will now fire the barbed footed flight broadhead arrows.
[23:22:36] You target [Buffie]
[23:22:36] You examine Buffie. She is a member of the Shaman class in your realm.
[23:22:39] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:22:40] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:22:43] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 930 (-177) damage!
[23:23:07] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:23:07] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:23:11] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 793 (-151) damage!
[23:23:23] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:23:23] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:23:27] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 785 (-149) damage!
[23:23:50] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:23:52] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:23:54] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 821 (-156) damage!
[23:24:08] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:24:08] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:24:11] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 793 (-151) damage!
[23:25:07] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:25:09] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:25:11] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 697 (-185) damage!
[23:25:24] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:25:25] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:25:28] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 717 (-191) damage!
[23:25:47] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:25:48] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:25:52] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 709 (-189) damage!
[23:26:05] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:26:06] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:26:10] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 781 (-208) damage!
[23:26:25] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:26:26] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:26:29] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 812 (-216) damage!
[23:27:02] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:27:02] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:27:06] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 754 (-201) damage!
[23:27:20] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:27:20] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:27:24] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 812 (-216) damage!
[23:27:38] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:27:38] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:27:42] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 726 (-193) damage!
[23:27:57] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:27:58] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:28:02] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 786 (-209) damage!
[23:28:02] You hit Buffie for 87 damage!
[23:30:00] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:30:00] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:30:04] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 833 (-221) damage!
[23:30:19] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:30:19] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:30:23] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 862 (-229) damage!

[23:34:11] You will now fire the blunt footed flight broadhead arrows.
[23:35:13] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:35:14] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:35:17] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 601 (-270) damage!
[23:35:22] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:35:26] You are ready to fire!
[23:35:26] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 595 (-267) damage!
[23:35:56] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:35:56] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:36:00] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 757 (-340) damage!
[23:36:18] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:36:18] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:36:22] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 670 (-301) damage!
[23:36:34] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:36:34] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:36:38] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 676 (-304) damage!
[23:36:52] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:36:53] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:36:56] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 704 (-316) damage!
[23:37:06] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:37:07] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:37:11] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 643 (-289) damage!
[23:37:19] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:37:23] You are ready to fire!
[23:37:25] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 587 (-264) damage!
[23:37:34] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:37:35] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:37:39] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 687 (-309) damage!
[23:38:03] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:38:05] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:38:07] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 556 (-250) damage!
[23:38:20] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:38:21] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:38:24] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 691 (-310) damage!
[23:38:40] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:38:40] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:38:44] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 585 (-263) damage!
[23:38:58] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:38:58] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:39:02] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 669 (-301) damage!
[23:39:14] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:39:14] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:39:18] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 617 (-277) damage!
[23:40:47] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:40:47] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:40:50] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 684 (-307) damage!
[23:41:20] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:41:20] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:41:24] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 560 (-252) damage!
[23:41:49] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:41:50] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:41:52] You prepare your shot (2s to fire, target is in range)
[23:41:53] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 761 (-342) damage!
[23:42:05] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:42:05] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:42:09] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 569 (-256) damage!
[23:42:38] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:42:38] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:42:43] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 726 (-326) damage!
[23:43:02] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:43:02] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:43:06] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 595 (-267) damage!
[23:43:28] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:43:28] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:43:32] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 683 (-307) damage!
[23:43:55] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:43:56] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:43:59] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 595 (-267) damage!
[23:44:55] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:44:56] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:44:59] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 710 (-319) damage!
[23:45:30] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:45:33] You move and interrupt your shot!
[23:45:40] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:45:41] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:45:44] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 764 (-343) damage!
[23:45:55] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:45:55] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:45:59] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 691 (-311) damage!
[23:45:59] You hit Buffie for 77 damage!
[23:47:04] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:47:05] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:47:08] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 718 (-322) damage!

[23:47:28] @@You say, "Back to thrust arrows."
[23:47:37] You attempt to use barbed footed flight broadhead arrows.
[23:47:37] You will now fire the barbed footed flight broadhead arrows.
[23:47:39] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:47:40] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:47:43] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 901 (-239) damage!
[23:47:56] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:47:57] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:48:00] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 644 (-171) damage!
[23:48:13] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:48:14] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:48:17] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 656 (-174) damage!
[23:48:30] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:48:31] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:48:34] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 718 (-191) damage!
[23:48:57] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:48:59] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:49:02] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 717 (-191) damage!
[23:50:20] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:50:21] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:50:25] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 682 (-181) damage!
[23:50:40] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:50:42] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:50:44] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 842 (-224) damage!
[23:50:58] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:50:58] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:51:02] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 685 (-182) damage!
[23:51:21] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:51:23] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:51:25] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 838 (-223) damage!
[23:51:44] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:51:45] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:51:49] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 690 (-184) damage!
[23:52:04] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:52:05] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:52:09] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 666 (-177) damage!
[23:52:12] The forces of Albion have captured Dun na nGed Spire!
[23:52:17] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:52:18] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:52:21] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 718 (-191) damage!
[23:52:41] You prepare your shot (3s to fire, target is in range)
[23:52:42] You will now automatically release your shot.
[23:52:45] You shoot Buffie with your bow and hit for 842 (-224) damage!


56 Critshots, not a single miss.

If you use good arrows, you don't miss.
Even against 31% resist, I'm doing 700ish damage (crush), and using thrust (which I would be using in RVR), it's somewhere between 700-800 constantly - on just the critshots.

*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Mar 30 23:53:14 2007

Originally posted by Mahtahtine
If you use good arrows, you don't miss.


EDIT: Nm, confused about your post.

This should help as a comparison of the pre 1.88 damage to the 1.88 damage thanks so much for posting that.

CANCEL NOW!

Caccia we get the point your unhappy, but at some point your kicking and screaming is going to become very very irritating. If indeed you are done with this game then so be it, let us "fools" who are going to stick around and see what happens do so without constant harassment. Besides the people over in Europe can still enjoy the game for a good 3-5 months before they get 1.88.

Besides its not like I didnt get the message in the last 10 of your posts...:rolleyes:

Well, we don't enjoy the game as archer in europe.
Guess what: Bow-spec sucks also in 1.86.

On my own i can't kill almost anything even on classics.

But hey, nobody expected an upgrade to archery.

I DO remember quite well, that most of the people on these boards said, they would quit, if they didnt't improve archery.

And now there is patch 1.88....obvioulsly not an improvement.

After 1 year of promises a patch, that's rather a nerf than anything else?

Does anyone think, that's acceptable.

If you act like this could turn out somehow ok, you BETRAY the archery community.

ONLY drastic actions, like mass-cancellations could do anything.

Caccia.

Originally posted by Caccia
Well, we don't enjoy the game as archer in europe.
Guess what: Bow-spec sucks also in 1.86.

On my own i can't kill almost anything even on classics.

But hey, nobody expected an upgrade to archery.

I DO remember quite well, that most of the people on these boards said, they would quit, if they didnt't improve archery.

And now there is patch 1.88....obvioulsly not an improvement.

After 1 year of promises a patch, that's rather a nerf than anything else?

Does anyone think, that's acceptable.

If you act like this could turn out somehow ok, you BETRAY the archery community.

ONLY drastic actions, like mass-cancellations could do anything.

Caccia.

Dawg, you take this a little too serious right now. Take a break and get out for awhile.

We're getting 1.87 in two weeks, will try to do some more tests when we're on that patch. I've asked the GMs to provide us with target dummies like on Pendragon, to make it easier to test.

kind of sucks that I see logs like that and think "ahh the good old days"

:(

Mythic screwed archers right proper with this shithole they call a patch.

damage is down across the board
utility is just as nonexistent as before
misses are up (so damage is not just lower, it is more inconsistent)
we are interrupted MUCh more often thanks to multitudes of procs firing that never did before

I didn't think they would screw us over THIS bad. But then again I didn't count on the caster TLs and the cleric TL going apeshit over a basic misunderstanding of game mechanics. effing morons.

k I'm done