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I hope we get something besides just low level pet styles and a group abs.
This just really hurt BDs in groups and mid groups in general.
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Mordun posted:
I hope we get something besides just low level pet styles and a group abs.
This just really hurt BDs in groups and mid groups in general.
Who knew that Mythic could/would actually nerf any spell in the DARKNESS specline. I freely and shamelessly admit I'm a little bitter that all other pet casters are getting cool pet upgrades while our subpets (DARKNESS) remain trashy.
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While I'm not thrilled at the change, I saw it coming. I'm hoping like Enigmatik that they will at least boost darkness in this patch before they go ahead with this nerf.
With all this pet love I have a feeling that we should expect a ML9 pet nerf coming very very soon.
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Well, Jikk. I only know of three BDs who are or were specced Darkness to/at 50 for any length in my 4.5 career. You, Gaav and myself. So no surprise you'd agree with me on this one. I smell a ML9 nerf also. Why else boost pets in general by so much? For as much love as they're dishing out to other pet casters. The incoming ML9 nerf will probably rival that of LA.
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Well, Jikk. I only know of three BDs who are or were specced Darkness to/at 50 for any length in my 4.5 career. You, Gaav and myself. So no surprise you'd agree with me on this one. I smell a ML9 nerf also. Why else boost pets in general by so much? For as much love as they're dishing out to other pet casters. The incoming ML9 nerf will probably rival that of LA.
I've actually never been a Dark BD  I have been a 50 BA BD that tried to RvR for a significant about of time though and the issues are pretty much the same with Darkness. Worthless subpets and completely worthless spells so I know the pain of playing a gimp BD (though BA was nice to level with)
Mythic either needs to make the sub pets do something special or give more power to the BD in both lines. The idea behind the class was the BD themselves would be rather weak in favor of having 4 pets with unique abilities to make up for it. That idea has been broken since SI and it's about time the work on fixing it Plenty of things that could be done without overpowering Dark and BA while making them worthwile in RvR it's just that Mythic won't spend the time working on it. I mean they haven't even fixed the Archer pets after all this time so  I'm not holding my breath for them to actually improve the lines
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Like I said in the other thread they did change the seer pet a bit by having it reapply the disease and debuff which would be good in fights. I will have to check to see if it has changed (duration or type) from my last testing. The Dark casters still suck though.
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Lets see.... big nerf with the debuff not interrupting, speed warp nerf, inc ML9 nerf....I REALLY expect changes to BA and dark in 1.87 D.
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I dont see this as a nerf at all.
More of a bug fix. The debuff shouldnt have been interupting anyway imo.
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I really don't think the nerfing of the body debuff will hurt BD's in groups....
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it is a whole other instant interrupt, fast targetting/interrupting bds will definately feel its impact...
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yep bug fix long time coming.
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Honestly, Mythic needs to give something more in the sense of interrupts to the bd for the loss of their 2nd interrupt. The class itself on classic 8v8 is used for the main interrupts of the group and without that 2nd one it makes it that much harder to lock down the ever popular alb extend group. Honestly mids have it hard enough without making it more of a challenge. Albs can run the better tank group, hibs will be able to soon. FOTM albs also have mids licked on the caster groups due to range, the only combat was for a decent bd to push right in their face while the tanks worked on their target.
Pet slam does sound interresting but the problem is that a competent group will drop the pets right off the bat, thus dropping the bd's interrupting capability considerably.
Now if the darkness line spec nuke was increased beyond the dps of the base line dps, then you might have something. But a pet slam in exchange for 50% of the bd's interrupting capabilty does not measure up. I do understand the concept of nerfing an overpowered soloing class, but in terms of 8v8 midguard in general does not need any.
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The BD in our classic Mid group has already started leveling a RM.
The BD will lose 50% of its interrupts but its not a big deal? These changes will make BDs alot less wanted in groups. RM can interupt from range with the NS and has better DPS. Once ML9 is nerfed the pets will be a non factor. End of story on BDs.
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Yeah they lose the interupt on the body debuff, but lets see, they have lifetap, good damage(especially with a rc rm in grp), 2-3 mystic/guardian pets that interupt multiple targets, ml9 pet(maybe nerfed? but not yet) twf, baod, abs buff.
last time i checked the only thing on that list that rms have is damage.
on toa servers at least I still think the dark rm/rc rm/Bd setup will remain the best~
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Like I said, most competent groups know to train the pets right off the bat. That or send at least one person to drop them. Very hard to heal them even when they're fully buffs with the abs buffs. Their damage is good but not that of a RM, without that 2nd interrupt their ability to lock down targets is greatly decreased. Maybe the dynamics of the mid group just needs to change, but I really enjoy playing my bd lol. I hope they give them something better in return besides the pet slam, especially since mythic has already decreased the amount they slam heavily.
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yeah damn, bds have one less interupts, maybe that means shamans/healers/and skalds may actually get to do something~
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