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Fadhmir  972 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/05 6:00am Subject: What to do against theurg earth pets?
Greetings,

being new to the bard class I noticed now how easy it is for a theurg to render me absolutely useless. He just has to sic an earth pet on me, a single one.. that's all.. and I can't do anything besides using insta abilities.
I can't CC it.
I can't sprint away from it, I can't even SoS away from it.
I can't cast confuse on it as the casting time of that spell is 3.5 secs, and I can't get a distance to the pet due to above reason.

All I can do is being faster with my CC than the theurg is at sic'ing a pet on me.

Is it true that with one spell a theurg can screw any support class completely for 1 minute, against which no MA except maybe MoC helps?
Or did I miss out on anything? Do you have any tactics against this?


P.S. I'm speaking about classic servers. No ML abilities there.

 

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Date Posted: 8/21/05 6:19am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
Confuse them or run to your AE caster.

 

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McThompson  7774 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/05 7:09am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?

Seemingly the common sense I see on display nightly is to run from earth pets, run in circles from earth pets, run out of healing range chased by earth pets, and do anything BUT run to your PBAoE and stand there to have the pets cleared.

 

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Date Posted: 8/21/05 8:29am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
run with a bainshee who's not a spam whore and plays utility fire and foremost, and they can simply scare away the pets.

 

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TalshGalahad  3260 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/05 9:30am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
I realize you're a bard and have to keep your instrument out, but if you can whip out a weapon for about 3 or 4 swings, you can kill them. I can 1-shot (sometimes 2-shot) the gray ones on my druid with DA up, the blue ones take a few more swings, but they're not impossible.

 

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Date Posted: 8/21/05 11:05am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
Run to your eldy is the best solution. One pet, he can DD it, stack he can pbaoe it (classic lighteld should have the L26 mana pbaoe).

And yes, a theurg can lockdown an awful lot of people if you let him cast. Your eldy really needs to nearsight him first. Knocking his petspam down to 700range instead of 2k helps a LOT. Stick druid pets on him, spam bainshee taunts or bardinstas at him (make him moc).

And if all else fails, ignore the silly pets and interrupt the best you can with your instas, or buy MoC1 and cast anyway.

Getting your weapon out is generally bad. All your tanks will say bad things about you in TeamSpeak when their endo regen goes away.

 

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Syphette  4582 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/05 11:25am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
moc to interrupt and get cure mezzes/diseases off - if you've already dumped your cc for the fight prior to this, everyone's got a timer anyway, so the reduced effectiveness of the mezzes won't matter, you're just after the interrupts.

thanks btw, i was debating if i should get sos2 or get moc first on the classic server, and after a bad experience with a theurgist the other night + this thread, the decision is quite simple! mocmocmoc

 

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Date Posted: 8/21/05 11:43am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets? - Date Edited: 8/21/05 11:44am (1 edits total) Edited By: The_Kierdaghs
Single pets aren't a problem, kite away from group and hit them with a sword if no casters are around, or to any DPS to one-shot them. The problem is a smart theurgist does 2-3 pets and makes sure a pet is on every support, in which case I /stick to the theurgist, occasionally run-through, and use every shout I have to lock them down. Most casters get annoyed as hell when you do that and spend the rest of the fight trying to kite. At least that's when running a tank group. Caster group is easy, since you should always run to AoE casters with anything on you.

 

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Cesoca  2412 posts
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Date Posted: 8/21/05 3:52pm Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
light elds have ae snare nuke and pbae still and can 1 or 2 shot pets maybe your eld just sucks

 

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Date Posted: 8/22/05 2:01am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
find a bg bot wink

 

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Date Posted: 8/22/05 2:04am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
I can attest that the single most annoying thing to happen to my theurg is to get Nearsighted happy

 

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Date Posted: 8/22/05 3:00am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets? - Date Edited: 8/22/05 3:01am (1 edits total) Edited By: SerapheIgraine
==
run with a bainshee who's not a spam whore and plays utility fire and foremost, and they can simply scare away the pets
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PW spec bains are a rare commodity.

But ya, you can still run to them where they can fae (SG spec) them off you.

 

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Fadhmir  972 posts
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Date Posted: 8/22/05 4:23am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
Ok, so the main conclusion is that I have to rely on my team to get those buggers off me.

Thanks happy

 

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Date Posted: 8/22/05 6:28am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets? - Date Edited: 8/22/05 6:44am (2 edits total) Edited By: Soron_
If Bards wouldn't have taken warden's group spots for the sake of another bard, maybe you could've cast "confusion" while under the protection of a warden's pbt grin

 

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TalshGalahad  3260 posts
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Date Posted: 8/22/05 7:57am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
Having PBT wouldn't help, you would still get interrupted when they (the pets) swung. I'd rather have a second bard for the chance that he's not petted and can kill them himself.

 

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Date Posted: 8/22/05 8:49am Subject: RE: What to do against theurg earth pets?
1. Run them to a caster to blow up
2. MOC confuse them off
3. Worse comes to worse, kill them yourself

 

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