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McThompson
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Can it be done? I've seemingly read mixed opinions on the matter.
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Chysil-Sherman
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ml9 druid pets? Yes they can be done. Fully buffed max lvl pet hit about 200-400ish in rvr
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McThompson
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No. Can bard/sorceror confusion be used on them? Against the bad guys, not convoking your own pet.
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Supprestion spec runemasters are other class with confuse, and i believe it doesn't work on pretty much anything in RvR and nothing usefull in PvE, maybe time to re-evaluate this spell?
I remember the good ol' days when you could confuse keep archers and watch them kill each other 
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Yes it works on pets. Clears their target and they scurry back to their owner.
Of course the owner can spam 'attack' but most don't remember.
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i thought confusion made the pet go haywire and hit whatever.
i used to have fun in duels spam confusing a chanter pet and watching it beat up its caster till he released it.
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The release is huge in keep and tower fights as the owner often isn't looking at or paying any attention to the pet. I often have dazed looking pets around my group. FUN FUN.
Confuse is great fun in PoC and other places with lots of mobs. Works particuarly well on mobs when you have shrooms up (they run between shrooms and go POOOF).
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the azures down by DL on hib safe side. (up towards north parth farm).
try confusing a couple of those for a good laugh.
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So you can confuse a ML9 pet, it's just a matter that they're high level and it's hard to get the spell to stick?
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spells are not effected by ml9 the pet is still considered whatever level it was before it was ml9'd maybe if you rvr'd or read stuff you would know this
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I RvR quite a lot. I've noticed simmys are often unmezzable, so assumed it raised their effective level. I did read to try to find the answer, and thus created this post. Maybe you could demonstrate your clear reading superiority and find me a link to a discussion on the matter?
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wow you moron you just proved you don't read by saying you don't know why you can't mez a cab pet at certain times. i assure you it has nothing to do with cabby rr5 nothing at all!
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Confuse will cause the pet to go back to the owner, causing them to set the pet to attack target once again. It insta kills thergist pets, since they have no way of being retargeted by therg after casting (FnF).
It is usable on ML 9 pets, but can get resisted a lot. It will break mezz as well, so be careful.
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ok i play on Lamorak.. when i confuse pets they usually just stand still.. for the duration of the confuse.. unless of course it's theurg pets.. then they die 
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I think a few posters are getting the effects of confusion and amnesia mixed up, I noticed that alot on different posts. Amnesia will just erase its target, and it will often stand around not doing anything untill the owner regives it a command. Confusion on the other hand is different. Confusion also acts a little different depending on what level of it you use.
I have played suppression runemaster, and also lower levels of bard, pac healer, mentalist, sorcerer. I have messed around with confusion on and off and of course amnesia as well for the ones above that get it which is all of the above except the mentalist and suppression runemaster.
Lower levels of confusion sub 20 if not resisted still have a slight chance of doing absolutely nothing to the pet, but as it closes to 20 it gets more likely and the pet goes around and just smacks enemies around it randomly that are close enough to it. If you happen to be the only thing close to it well its just going to keep smacking you down anyway as it doesn't have a target to change to. So at low levels of the spell it is not likely to help you out unless you have plenty of other allies around you for the pet to pick from. Starting at around the 20 to 25 range the pet starts adding its own realm side to its lists of targets it will run at and attack. And at the highest levels it has about a 50/50 chance of attacking its own allies or its enemy depending on who is closest. So if the owner of the pet is close enough it can and will attack the owner. The owner also looses control of what it does during the duration, it will do what ever it wants for that time frame. I am not sure what the agro radius of the pets are though when confused it appears to be less than 1000 units so anything over that it won't pick as a target so if owner is far enough away from his pet it won't run all the way back to him to beat him down.
Confusion also will instantly kill theurgist pets and animist bombers(if you can target them in time.) Pets that it will work on that I have seen are all cabalist pets, all enchanter pets, and spiritmaster pets, hunter pets, sorcerer pets, mentalist and minstrel pets. It does not appear to work on bonedancers commanders, necromancer pets(don't think it should here), animists shrooms. Basically it seems like the new classes got immunity to it. As far as ml9 it doesn't appear to add immunity to amnesia or confusion so if it didn't have immunity before it doesn't after.
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